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	<title>Comments on: Better than a Lego Vagina award for 360Flex</title>
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		<title>By: polyGeek</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-41145</link>
		<dc:creator>polyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ruben,  It&#039;s inevitable that people will develop similar components/websites concurrently and independently. And it&#039;s going to happen more and more as the number of components grow. 

It&#039;s also inevitable that people will see someone else&#039;s work and nab it for their own. And that&#039;s probably going to happen more and more.

It&#039;s unfortunate that you have had to deal with this. My only suggestion would be to write a post comparing your flipbook component to Ely&#039;s and noting the differences.

And BTW, nice work! Both you and Ely.

Good luck, dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ruben,  It&#8217;s inevitable that people will develop similar components/websites concurrently and independently. And it&#8217;s going to happen more and more as the number of components grow. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also inevitable that people will see someone else&#8217;s work and nab it for their own. And that&#8217;s probably going to happen more and more.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that you have had to deal with this. My only suggestion would be to write a post comparing your flipbook component to Ely&#8217;s and noting the differences.</p>
<p>And BTW, nice work! Both you and Ely.</p>
<p>Good luck, dan</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben Swieringa</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-40963</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruben Swieringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for backing me up there. I did in fact build my Book component from the ground up, and with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-beta&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beta-release&lt;/a&gt; I included the source-code.

&#039;Mike Morty&#039; made something of ten comments at the time of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alpha-release&lt;/a&gt; claiming that my code was actually what I had stolen from Ely.
At a certain point these comments started to become both repetitive and offensive, and I eventually decided to delete them.

After that, this guy (or girl?) apparently made it a personal mission to post comments on every blog linking to mine, trying to convince people that I had committed plagiarism.
This is obviously not the case, look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rubenswieringa.com/code/as3/flex/Book/source/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;source-code&lt;/a&gt; of my component if you want to.

I thought I&#039;d let you all know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for backing me up there. I did in fact build my Book component from the ground up, and with the <a href="http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-beta">beta-release</a> I included the source-code.</p>
<p>&#8216;Mike Morty&#8217; made something of ten comments at the time of the <a href="http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha">alpha-release</a> claiming that my code was actually what I had stolen from Ely.<br />
At a certain point these comments started to become both repetitive and offensive, and I eventually decided to delete them.</p>
<p>After that, this guy (or girl?) apparently made it a personal mission to post comments on every blog linking to mine, trying to convince people that I had committed plagiarism.<br />
This is obviously not the case, look at the <a href="http://www.rubenswieringa.com/code/as3/flex/Book/source/">source-code</a> of my component if you want to.</p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d let you all know.</p>
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		<title>By: polyGeek</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-35416</link>
		<dc:creator>polyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike, it&#039;s possible that he did it from the ground up. In that case my only criticism would be, &quot;Dude, it&#039;s been done. Pick something else.&quot; Either way, it&#039;s a worthy effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike, it&#8217;s possible that he did it from the ground up. In that case my only criticism would be, &#8220;Dude, it&#8217;s been done. Pick something else.&#8221; Either way, it&#8217;s a worthy effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Morty</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-35408</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Morty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey check this guy out. He actually has made a release on this with no credit to anyone.
http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha#comment-479

Ely does give credit and this guy just states boldy that he built it from the ground up. What a thief</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey check this guy out. He actually has made a release on this with no credit to anyone.<br />
<a href="http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha#comment-479">http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha#comment-479</a></p>
<p>Ely does give credit and this guy just states boldy that he built it from the ground up. What a thief</p>
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		<title>By: Rostislav Siryk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostislav Siryk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tink, sorry, but I believe that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perfectfools.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Perfect Fools&lt;/a&gt; was the first ones who made the Flash Book -- they had it complete and online &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20020405212317/http://www.perfectfools.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no later than Apr, 05  2002&lt;/a&gt;.

Their flash book had the fixed angle and was not so advanced as yours -- but it worked good (and had the basic transparency support) (I&#039;ve been insipred by their work and even made &lt;a href=&quot;http://rajaka.narod.ru/maya/kinbook.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own&lt;/a&gt; version in 2002).

Ely made good work, one thing I especially love in his implemetation is styles applied to the book in very simple way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tink, sorry, but I believe that <a href="http://www.perfectfools.com/">Perfect Fools</a> was the first ones who made the Flash Book &#8212; they had it complete and online <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020405212317/http://www.perfectfools.com/">no later than Apr, 05  2002</a>.</p>
<p>Their flash book had the fixed angle and was not so advanced as yours &#8212; but it worked good (and had the basic transparency support) (I&#8217;ve been insipred by their work and even made <a href="http://rajaka.narod.ru/maya/kinbook.html">my own</a> version in 2002).</p>
<p>Ely made good work, one thing I especially love in his implemetation is styles applied to the book in very simple way.</p>
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		<title>By: polyGeek</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-22290</link>
		<dc:creator>polyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Randy, great recap. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Randy, great recap. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Ely&#039;s talk at 360Flex was fantastic. For your readers who were not there I hope to add a bit of context. The talk was a dense and robust discussion on building custom components in Flex. Ely spent one hour and twenty minutes showing how to build a component (which was not the flip book). The Flex Book demo was very near the end and it proved to be a &quot;Star Search Moment.&quot; I am a Flash developer and I have used the flip book technique in a project before. His first example I thought &quot;cool, it is a flex component&quot;, then the transparency version I thought &quot;wow, nice idea&quot;, then the google search page flip example in Apollo brought the house down. You can&#039;t do that in Flash methinks.  It was the perfect ending to a excellent talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Ely&#8217;s talk at 360Flex was fantastic. For your readers who were not there I hope to add a bit of context. The talk was a dense and robust discussion on building custom components in Flex. Ely spent one hour and twenty minutes showing how to build a component (which was not the flip book). The Flex Book demo was very near the end and it proved to be a &#8220;Star Search Moment.&#8221; I am a Flash developer and I have used the flip book technique in a project before. His first example I thought &#8220;cool, it is a flex component&#8221;, then the transparency version I thought &#8220;wow, nice idea&#8221;, then the google search page flip example in Apollo brought the house down. You can&#8217;t do that in Flash methinks.  It was the perfect ending to a excellent talk.</p>
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		<title>By: polyGeek</title>
		<link>http://polygeek.com/299_flex_better-than-a-lego-vagina-award-for-360flex/comment-page-1#comment-22015</link>
		<dc:creator>polyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ely and jd,

Well said to both of you. 

I love the _drag, drop, next_ experience of working in Flex - actually it&#039;s _drag, drop, databind, next_ but still, very quick and easy to do. To me that&#039;s the big difference between Flex and Flash. 

@Ely, great analogy with C++/assembly, etc.

It will be interesting to see how the market changes with the popularity of Flex and soon Apollo. Obviously there will be a lot of work done to bring pre-Flex components, effects, what-have-you into the Flex world just as Ely has done with the flipbook. And I hope that everyone in the community has a lot of fun and makes a ton of money doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ely and jd,</p>
<p>Well said to both of you. </p>
<p>I love the _drag, drop, next_ experience of working in Flex &#8211; actually it&#8217;s _drag, drop, databind, next_ but still, very quick and easy to do. To me that&#8217;s the big difference between Flex and Flash. </p>
<p>@Ely, great analogy with C++/assembly, etc.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the market changes with the popularity of Flex and soon Apollo. Obviously there will be a lot of work done to bring pre-Flex components, effects, what-have-you into the Flex world just as Ely has done with the flipbook. And I hope that everyone in the community has a lot of fun and makes a ton of money doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how such interfaces are now encapsulated in a parameterizable component, which anyone can customize through simple XML.

It&#039;s not a new enduser experience, true, but it&#039;s a very different development experience. That&#039;s the key point...?

jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how such interfaces are now encapsulated in a parameterizable component, which anyone can customize through simple XML.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a new enduser experience, true, but it&#8217;s a very different development experience. That&#8217;s the key point&#8230;?</p>
<p>jd/adobe</p>
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		<title>By: Quietly Scheming &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why the Flex in FlexBook, or&#8230;Why a Flash Author should care (a lot!) about Flex.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quietly Scheming &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why the Flex in FlexBook, or&#8230;Why a Flash Author should care (a lot!) about Flex.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s been an interesting little discussion going on in the comments of this blog post on PolyGeek about the FlexBook component &#8212; mostly pointing out the relationship between this component and the previous flash-authoring based versions, and questioning what value Flex is adding to the effect. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s been an interesting little discussion going on in the comments of this blog post on PolyGeek about the FlexBook component &#8212; mostly pointing out the relationship between this component and the previous flash-authoring based versions, and questioning what value Flex is adding to the effect. [...]</p>
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